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This is a known issue that was first discovered a month (or more) ago. Has long been fixed. You need to clear Java Cahce, delete any existing start.jnlp or admin.jnlp files you have on your system and download a new IoX Launcher file from the UDI site - https://isy.universal-devices.com/start.jnlp (Quick search would find many posts about this: https://forum.universal-devices.com/search/?q="not found"&quick=1) Yeah...it's "secret". If you go to universal-devices.com and click on "My ISY" it right there. Also, there's a post in the "current release" area that links to the launcher file that has been in the same spot since 2018. So I'm not sure what links you seem to be saving that never work after two months, but maybe you can save one of these two links and not have an issue in December. PS: @lgilsenberg this shouldn't impact you since you're using an ISY994, but just in case you have two entries for the ISY994 after performing the resolution steps above that is normal and acceptable. It's mostly seeming to impact Polisy and eisy users that resolve a friendly URL on some/most routers with "device.local" URL. On the ISY994 I do not think this applies, but if you should suddenly get two entries for the same device that's fine. Either would work.

@JSchumann in addition to what @tlightne suggests (Polyglot on the eisy uses the same local credentials as the eisy admin console)if you've performed updates make sure you perform a full power cycle of the eisy. Sometimes updates get stuck (just unsure what is going on) and do not allow the system to properly reboot even though you press the "reboot" button in Admin Console. You have a few options: Press the power button 5 times (not holding longer than about 1-2 seconds) - this will reboot the device Press the power button 6 times - this will shutdown the system - blue light should turn red when "off" If you don't get successful reboot or shutdown then just pull the power supply, but that should be last attempt because the other methods give the system a chance to gracefully shutdown, thus stopping any processes in work. Once you have successful reboot or shutdown allow 2 minutes +/- for the system to fully start up and be accessable. Learn more about the multi function button in the wiki: https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Eisy:User_Guide#Multi_Function_Button

@ThisIsTheWay there was also a need to "reinstall all node servers" in a recent upgrade. I'm not sure if that's still needed/required or not, but you might want to look at that. Since you updated from PG3 3.1.23 you then probably updated to the current PG3x version and might need to run the reinstall process. @bmercier had that listed in 3.2.1 update for PG3x. EDIT: @ThisIsTheWay doesn't look like this is needed when migrating from PG3 to PG3x so disregard the above. Glad you got things up and running after a few more updates and reboots.

That's crazy. The site eventually loads for me from my home network (it's a bit slow), but from a remote network it does have issues. Have you tried going directly to the ticket page and using your Portal credentials to log in? https://www.universal-devices.com/my-tickets

Yes, there's an apparent fix in the works. As @Techman replied to your post (before being moved into the support thread that is already covering this issue). There was an attempted fix put into IoX 5.7.0_4. If you'll go to: https://eisy.local:8443/WEB/sysconfig.txt (or change polisy.local if you're on a Polisy or use the device's IP address if the friendly URL doesn't resolve). Look for "isy-5.7.0_4". That should have updated in the last few days. @Michel Kohanim said some fixes took another reboot and the programs returned to normal. Another fix is to always perform a backup BEFORE you upgrade anything. Restoring the backup has been found to restore the enabled/disabled programs correctly. But ultimately, if you still have this error and it happens after subsequent reboots then please open a support ticket and work directly with UDI to get additional information regarding our system so they can possibly troubleshoot to help everybody.

This "Not Found" issue was resolved shortly after it was first reported. To resolve that issue you need to: clear Java cache (checking all 3 boxes) Delete all instances of start.jnlp and/or admin.jnlp anywhere on your system download fresh IoX Launcher from UDI site (https://isy.universal-devices.com/start.jnlp) run "start.jnlp" This should fix the "not found" issue as it fixed it for others that reported this issue (myself included). The 2 addresses is normal and reported by some. It's been reported as "normal" by @Michel Kohanim. Unsure the exact cause/reason, but it's not to be of worry. As you said either work. Since they're both auto found by the system they cannot be removed.

@PLCGuy this is normal. Since it ran true at the time you had it's showing that it last ran true. If the entire icon was green it would be a "running" program (like @DennisC suggests). You can look at the Summary tab to see the activity. I have a couple of programs that run a single time event and they are showing True (as your icon shows) and on the Summary tab, but the "Activity" is "Idle". It's not as though that program is still firing or applying your "Then" statement. It only runs at that specific time. If you want it to turn false you could put a time range in (from 2:00am - 2:01am) it would turn false after the time range. Program Icon color meanings in the wiki: https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY_Programs:Icon_Colors "Partly green - not currently running, but last ran THEN code"

Go to this site: eisy.local:8443/WEB/sysconfig.txt (if you're on Polisy use "polisy.local"). If you are on 5.7.0_4 then it "should" be fixed, based on @Michel Kohanim's comment linked above. If not they apparently have additional debugging code that you would need to open a support ticket for them to learn more and to help (everybody). @oskrypuch What "fix"? Are you replying to the program disable issue or still about your concern for being bricked? Did you open a support ticket as @Michel Kohanim suggested? If you're wondering about the programs issue being resolved it does not appear to remain an issue for updated beyond 5.7.0, but there might still be an issue going from 5.6.x to 5.7, but according to other posts if on the 5.7.0_4 build another reboot should repair the programs to their expected state. I know all updates post 5.7.0 for me have not impacted the program status. I did have issue when 5.7.0 first came out and I updated from 5.6.x, but nothing since. One step that helps is taking that backup just before you update. You can restore that update and programs will return to their expected status. Then perform another reboot (or power cycle) and see if programs are as expected.

This is normal and not an issue. There’s no real explanation for this. Some have this and some don’t. But it doesn’t cause any problems.

Yes, this should be fixed according to a post from @Michel Kohanim yesterday. Requires an update to run. It doesn’t change the version number, but it is a fix from UDI’s side for IoX. Updating your system for the latest PG3x update should also update to 5.7.0_4. But to be certain make sure you make an IoX backup before you update.

@rick.curl I just tried logging into the system and didn't encounter an error. Make sure you're using your portal credentials. If you can get logged back in add something to the ticket so it's still open or re-opened. In the meantime maybe @Chris Jahn can help review this issue.

From the sounds of this you're using the very old method of trying to access the admin console. All browsers dropped java support ages ago and that method no longer works. in 2018 UDI release the ISY Launcher (now IoX Launcher) that @Techman mentions above. You need to download the start.jnlp file and it will add an "IoX Launcher" icon to your desktop. Here's the release post about the ISY Launcher (IoX Launcher) from 2018: (more info in the wiki: https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Main_Page#Installing_the_Admin_Console_Icon_on_Your_Desktop)

Do you happen to have special characters in your password? If so, maybe remove those and try it. See this post from @Goose66

My question above wasn't answered - when did you update the firmware? That's probably when this happened. If you didn't notice it and you did it a long time ago I suspect it changed then and you just didn't notice it. "easy fix?" Doubtful. I wonder if it wasn't a problem until something else changed meaning you haven't found the real reason for this. During my time with the ISY994 things didn't just randomly happen. Usually it was user induced changes that created other issues. Sure, devices fail and cause problems, but that's not going to cause this type of change. You could get lost in the weeds for trying to test this so depends how large your system is and how deep you want to dig. Make a backup of your current system. Perform a restore just to be sure it's a good backup! Copy all programs to a plain text (.txt) document [right click on the root program folder, select "Copy to Clipboard" then paste into a plain text editor (Windows use Notepad)]. This way you have a "copy" of all your programs as they are CURRENTLY. If you have an old backup (maybe pre-firmware update) you could possibly downgrade the firmware and try to restore that backup to see if it goes back to what you are remembering. If that isn't what you expected then reload the current firmware and restore a current backup and move on from here. But that's rather drastic and might not work or could cause you a lot of other issues. Other options would be to create a random new scene (perhaps with devices not in other scenes) to see how they appear to you after setting up. Another option would be to remove existing devices from scenes, remove from the ISY994 then re-add and put into a new scene to see how that appears. Just a lot of individual trial and error at that point. Ultimately, the forums is the only place you'll get (free) support for the ISY994 as that's been discontinued by UDI and no longer supported (Paid support is available until June 1, 2024).

I'm not entirely sure. I jus know the Admin Console URL is what you need/use to access admin console. The other is used for different (more complicated "stuff") that I've never dealt with. I searched some old posts and found people sending commands to the ISY "back in the day" so not sure what that's really used for. Sorry. But glad it worked now for some reason. You might want to clear the other browser history and cache to see if that might help get things showing over there. Otherwise, maybe it's got some blocking add-on or something that wasn't allowing the information to load. Try that browser in a private/incognito window to see if the information loads.

@Wibar in addition to the suggestion by @Andy P to read through the Wiki the "easiest" way might be to use UD Mobile, setup Geofencing and have the app trigger the program when crossed. More info can be found in the wiki, but I think there's a link to a video in a post in the UD Mobile area on the forums somewhere. It's been a while since I looked for it.

I wonder if you’re dropping local network and it’s jumping outside the geofence area while looking to connect to the cell signal. I had this problem ages ago (before we got more towers near us). But I haven’t had noticed delays with UD Mobile current beta build 1.1.27 or the last few. And I rarely have UD Mobile open or in the background (I am notorious for force closing apps often). I don’t have this issue, but I also don’t have overly complex triggers. Mine works as crossing boundaries if not even running..and yes, Mobilinc HD does as well, and that app runs even less than UD Mobile these days. My experience is running on iPhone 15 pro max with UD Mobile and eisy updated/current as of this post. (I don’t have the specific versions handy as I’m “mobile” at the moment.)

The "enable internet access" isn't anything you need to do. Remote access is either by port forwarding on a local router directly to the device (not very secure) or using the URL found in the UD Portal and using your portal credentials to log in (much more secure...please use a strong password!). To find the URL for the device in UD Portal go to the "Information" area in this screenshot and select "ISY Infomration" then use "Admin Console URL". If you have multiple devices in your Portal make sure you're picking your eisy. Nope. That's all UDI has developed to run Admin Console. UD Mobile is being developed to be able to control most of what you can through Admin Console, but is a whole different issue (for many), and wouldn't be my primary preference for setting up complicated programs.

@GSutherland we get it...you're having HUE issues. No need to start a new thread saying the same thing you've said here already. I'm not sure what's happening, and since the node server hasn't been updated in a while would think it should work since it works for some. Since the developer doesn't seem to be responding on the forums it might be best to open a support ticket with UDI to see if they can get some traction with the developer to try to help. https://www.universal-devices.com/my-tickets Make sure you've read the other posts in the forum as there were hints/tricks to making it work in the past that should still work. It's quite possible something in the PG3x updates might have fouled up new installs and linking to the Hue hub, but I've got this working and it doesn't disconnect. The Hue and the eisy are right next to each other and connected to the same network switch.

@Goose66 I'm no programmer and no network wizard. So a huge assumption is made in how this all works. I've had routers not give a friendly URL and others offer it up quickly, but somehow the local IP also appears. If it's not an issue why bother it and even be concerned about it? It's not broke. Even @Michel Kohanim said "this is normal". I'm just expressing my experience as a user that has experienced both local IP and friendly url address coming up in the IoX Finder window. Try to calm another user that seems to think it's an issue when it's commented in several other places that others have this happening and it's normal and not "broken". Ultimately, the concern is resolved. User can access the system as expected.

@gadgetfreak sorry...can't help much more on this. I'm not running an ISY994 anymore and didn't get carried away in scenes so can't much relate to how the eisy is handling them to how they were in the 994 time. Perhaps others that had more scene knowledge can assist. In the eisy the "Link Type" is showing Insteon for the few devices I have in a scene. My guess is this is because eisy can run Insteon, Z-Wave, Zigbee, and node servers so it might have different entries than the ISY994 did. To see how a scene is setup you need to look at the controller(s) of the scene and the action might show different settings.

Glad you got it working! The 2 entries aren't (shouldn't be) a bother. It's probably your router allowing both the IP and friendly URL replying to the IoX Launcher search for local device process. It's the same device so isn't a concern. They're the same so can be used interchangeably. It's funny so many have considered this an issue of late. I had been used to it for so long that I never paid it any attention until others were worried about it.

As @Michel Kohanim suggests it looks like could be a Java issue. You said you have the "newest" version of Java installed. Which version are you running? If on windows open start menu and type "Java" then run "Configure Java" and click on "About". Should be Version 8 Update 381. I'd perform a full uninstall and clean removal (java removal tool) of Java and download again from java.com and try again. In the file Michel linked to above I think they're looking for some of the last lines. Specifically: <upgradeStatus>inactive</upgradeStatus> Also, make sure you're not running any VPN, Firewall, or Anti-virus software when you're initially running/installing start.jnlp.

@gadgetfreak Unclear exactly where you're looking for this difference. Can you provide some screen shots? Also, what Firmware are you running? You posted in the ISY994 forum so assuming your device is indeed ISY994. Have you updated firmware lately? If you "recently" updated from 4.x to 5.x there were huge changes in how scenes are handled in 5.x that might change whatever screen you're looking at for action = "default". What happens to the action line if you turn the scene on/off manually?

@Envirogreen What computer OS are you running (Windows, mac, other)? If on Windows after you click lan or cloud and nothing happens would you open your Task Manager and see if you have a "Jav(TM) Web Launcher" process running. If you do then you need to delete the .state files as mentioned in the wiki: https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Main_Page#Admin_Console_Minimized/Invisible_and_Cannot_be_Restored The issue of having two entries is/was normal for an older version of start.jnlp. You mentioned you cleared java cache, but have you downloaded a recent copy of start.jnlp? Please delete all versions of start.jnlp or admin.jnlp you might have on your system and download a new copy from UDI site - https://isy.universal-devices.com/start.jnlp