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https://wiki.universal-devices.com/UD_Mobile#Scene_Estimated_Status Might help explain it. Not sure if options have changed since I know UD Mobile UI has changed slightly over time.

@Jimini your topic has been split out of where you originally posted to get specific help for your issues rather than where it was (under a new user's post that hadn't returned since their initial posting. Have you attempted to add it manually either using eisy.local or the IP for the eisy? (process referenced in the wiki troubleshooting) It appears that you've attempted the usual troubleshooting steps and things still are not correct. It might be best to get help directly from UDI through a support ticket. (https://www.universal-devices.com/my-tickets) Recently there were some that migrated over and found that several power cycles were needed for the USB PLM to be found by the eisy. But once that was resolved a restore of the ISY994 backup seemed to work well. Is it possible to locate the eisy back to where you had the ISY994 so you can use a network wire to connect it and test the setup process? At least an option just for the initial setup and possibly additional troubleshooting with support. Then once things are working you could change to wifi and relocate the device (and PLM). If you do open a support ticket please post back here what helped resolve the issue to possibly help others in the future.

What do you mean? I'm surprised there wasn't a post at 12:01am on January 1st asking about the update. @jtara92101 as for the "slow moving announcements" area - last I checked on that there are so many moving parts now that it's hard to make an announcement when things are updated. That's why UD Mobile was being used to alert users about an update a few months ago. However, with this being a "big" upgrade/release I'm hopeful UD will have a good release, documentation, and processes in place to help with the transition.

“Switched” is typically a physical operation of the device. ”Status” is what is reported back to the ISY/IoX system. If you mean that you have Geofence programs that are sending notifications and you use switched then those won’t fire because Geofence interaction is only changing the “status” of the device. Maybe posting the program (right click on the program and select “Copy to clipboard” then paste (as text) here for review and help. If it’s not UD Mobile/geofence related then start a new topic in the IoX Program Support area.

@junkycosmos IoX user/pass would then be the same for PG3x. The ssh user/pass is system generated so not the same as IoX (and not controlled/changed/updated if you change on IoX). So I think what you’re experiencing is to be expected. Not sure if you can “change” the ssh admin user to be capitalized. You can (and should) only change the pass for the admin user.

@cwhite951 did you by chance migrate from an ISY994 running a 4.x firmware? (Do you recall?) your symptoms somewhat indicate you might have and now in the 5.x firmware scenes are different and need to be repaired and sometimes recreated or reconfigured. Make sure if you’re manipulating a scene from admin console or Alexa that the scene settings are correct at the scene level. Like you I set my scenes up ages ago, but I did go to 5.x on the ISY994 and had to fix things back then. Thankfully they worked after the eisy migration a couple of years ago.

@SHM perhaps you could describe what you're wanting to use it for a little bit. It might help pinpoint something that another option might have or not have. As @bpwwer says since they're pulling from airport locations it might not be of value to you if you're not close to the area being used. I'm about 2 miles from a local airfield that OpenWeather is pulling from so it's fairly accurate. I don't need things so pinpoint accurate to run a personal weather station. For simple temp and humidity I have YoLink sensors outside to get temp and humidity at my location.

@cwhite951 agreeing with @paulbates about knowing the steps you took to this point, but also would ask what version of Java did you download? If you just go to java.com and download the current release found there (currently showing: Version 8 Update 431 [Release Date: October 15, 2024]) that's all you need. Often times people will download a different java version and it's not going to run correctly without a lot of work. Next be sure no VPN or Anti-virus software is running. Then just a random thought is run the "Configure Java" app (in Windows just hit the Windows icon to open the menu and type in "java" and "Configure Java" should come up as an app. Once that is open click on the Advanced tab. Scroll to (near) the bottom and make sure to UNCHECK "Use SSL 2.0 compatible ClientHello format" if it's currently checked. (It more than likely shouldn't be, but just in case something caused it to be checked be sure to uncheck it. Lastly, just double check that start.jnlp is associated with Java Web Launcher. Open windows explorer and locate your start.jnlp file, right click, and select properties. In the "Opens with" portion it should show "Java(TM) Web Launcher". If it's not showing that you need to change what it opens with "javaws" (it's being put in different places here and there. I'm on Win10 and found it in "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_431\bin". (more than likely you won't have to get into this amount of fixing it though)

@CoolToys I think there was mention of some 3D printed trays in the past. Maybe try a Google Site search for it. Probably in archived topics by this time so standard forum search might not find them. Update: Made me want to go find them. I guess they were only talking about Polisy. I only found one thread I recalled about a bracket. I think there was a mount of some sort included (at least in early runs of the eisy). But as @carealtor suggests below there might be mounts available for the MiniPC around.

@Guy Lavoie I think if that were possible it would have been achieved a long time ago. I'm sure this has to have been a request (or many) somewhere along the way. It might be an issue within the Insteon technology and rather than risk breaking something keeping it simple in the ISY/IoX world of things to only be able to replace like devices. Certainly something you could pose directly to UDI using their contact us from the web: https://www.universal-devices.com/contact-us/ It might be something those that have been around a lot longer (like @Brian H or @IndyMike) would have knowhow of if this is an Insteon limitation or indeed just a limited ISY/IoX situation. Maybe even @lilyoyo1 might have some insight. Just a few names that I know have the history and certainly more insight to the underlying technology (in a non-official way anyway).

@jkraus not sure. I don't have devices like that. Try it out and report back. Maybe in your YoLink thread. Unless you think it would apply to both brands and plugins.

The UD wiki will be the best spot for "documentation", but like others say it might not be exactly current or what you're looking for. It's more or less looking for what was in the old cookbook, but things might be in different spots now. The biggest issue I've run into over the years was going from 4.x to 5.x with how scenes were changed a good bit and the "copy to scene" option was removed. That's due to the inclusion of Z-Wave in the 5.x firmware going back to the ISY994 years. https://wiki.universal-devices.com/Main_Page eisy specific "user guide" - https://wiki.universal-devices.com/Eisy:User_Guide Most of the old ISY Cookbook still applies to how ISY/IoX handles things.

@jkraus didn't you already ask this? Oh...that was for YoLink. I would expect the same answer here. Doubtful since there's no direct link from the Insteon signal to the Plugin to control Kasa. Perhaps you could create a program for brightness setting, but that's not usually controllable by pressing a dimmer and holding it to get the brightness you desire. Typically (from my experience) Insteon dimmers usually only impact Insteon devices and/or direct power load. External systems (those that are connected via Plugins) don't typically respond to Insteon commands without other programming through the IoX system.

@jkraus usually the plugin will pickup a name change, but it might need to be restarted. Otherwise, the prior node might need to be deleted then the plugin restarted for it to refresh and pull from the connected system. Make sure that the admin console is CLOSED during this process. IoX Admin Console only loads node names at launch so it will not refresh there if changed in the PG3x interface until the next time IoX AC loads.

For a line like this I prefer to use the “not off” for the status. Your program is looking for only when the status is 0%, but that’s “off”. For a dimmer switch I have more success using the “not off” rather than the status being 0%. Because usually when the status is 0% it’s “off”. Remember that “control” is a physical operation of a switch. Where as “status” is what’s reported to the ISY from the device. If it’s a dimmer it might report a status of “off” rather than “0%”.

Yes, scene copy was removed in the 5.x update years ago. Due to the advanced options of including z-wave into IoX configuring I believe that was an option removed at the time. Now scenes need to be setup a little different, but I think that’s been outlined in updated wiki. I’m not a bit user of scenes so can’t give exact differences, but think there is updated info in the wiki or certainly elsewhere on the forums….maybe try Google site search for more information and help

@GCalzat sounds like you answered your own question in your trial and error. I think the idea was that the newer hue bulbs would be able to connect to the UD zigbee device and therefore not need the hue hub, but as you indicate you might give up a little function by doing that. Having 40 hue bulbs is a lot and if you already had them in the app and pulled into the eisy with the plugin I would suggest leaving them that way. You know...ain't broke don't fix it. I have less than 10 hue bulbs and only one hub and use the Hue Plugin just fine with the eisy. I don't get too fancy with the process though so you might have a lot more for room lighting and color options. I would think the way you had it so well linked is the best way for your situation. I agree with @Guy Lavoie that it's more than likely the bulbs can only talk to one hub. Even then it might be an issue that older bulbs might not be able to talk to the Zigbee network that the ZMatter device is using so you would need the hub for those bulbs.

@weilerda nothing yet. There's an update coming later this month that might start adding in some additional options, but waiting on UD to release that and give indication of support and how-to. Hold tight until the update and further info from UD for this.

@JTsao it might be worth trying to setup sending through Gmail as outlined in the wiki. I don't use the default mail server so can't say one way or the other, but I haven't had issues getting messages through a Gmail account dedicated to the ISY email notifications.

@PapaBear and this is on an eisy? I've seen this error before somewhere, but think it was for somebody running a Polisy. Did you recently attempt an update for the device? (nothing has been updated recently as I can tell.) I would suggest performing a full power cycle (pressing power button 6 times will gracefully shut the eisy down - power light should turn red, then pull the power supply for 10-20 seconds, then plug it back in and power it up). Allow for the system to stabilize (maybe 1-2 minutes+) then try opening admin console and trying again. If the problem continues please open a support ticket. Then report back what is done to resolve this so we can learn and help others should they run into this issue in the future. Lastly, please let us know what firmware you are currently using. Please give specific version number (help -> about).

Uh oh! Since it's done it more than once I might open a support ticket to possibly get a deeper dive into the system to see what's going on. Haven't seen this myself, but I don't run motion sensors.

@GXW as @Techman points out the admin console isn't designed to remain open 24/7. The question is why do you need/want to do that? Are you having issues that you are troubleshooting or are you just leaving it open with the event viewer for your entertainment? These systems are to be automated and not require non-stop monitoring. If you are having issues then they should be resolved and not something that you just simply try to keep the event viewer open endlessly. It's probably using too many resources and possibly causing Java to fail or stop the admin console process. ISY (IoX) does have an event log if you're interested in what's going on. It can be downloaded from admin console and reviewed outside of the IoX system.

@Argilos split your post out from another topic so you'd get some help specific to your question/issues. There's been a lot of discussion on the forums over the last several years about the decline in reliability of email to text alerts (entirely due to the carriers filtering/blocking/delaying such efforts). Be sure you've read through the UD Mobile wiki: https://wiki.universal-devices.com/UD_Mobile This is in the PG3 web interface on the Polisy or eisy and in the "Plugin Store" area. What "ISY" device are you running? Also, what Firmware are you currently running (for reference...please give specific number not just "latest" or "current").

There's a statement that's underrated! Remember when we just had 1 or 2? Now we're willing to "settle" for 3! I've not looked into quad-band equipment. I'm more than satisfied with the tri-band I'm using.

Get the tri-band versions (that's what mine is) for a true dedicated backhaul channel. The dual bands share the traffic for the backhaul (unless you can specifically limit it now). Consider reviews like forum posts. Usually only people with issues that will make a post. Because of the issues they have they'll leave bad/low reviews. There are tons that won't review a product because it works as expected. I'm guilty of that, and sure most here probably are. I looked at eero a few years ago, but they didn't play well with my modem at the time. And I've seen comments about some "features" now being behind a paywall (eero+). Why do I need to subscribe to services on a router after I've paid for the product? I just haven't looked at eero since the issues I faced, but that's been 5+ years ago. Perhaps they're better now and worth a look. They're now owned by Amazon (for what it's worth).