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Maybe the wiki information would help: https://wiki.universal-devices.com/ISY-99i/ISY-26_INSTEON:Using_the_Event_Viewer Otherwise, what specific question do you have? Event viewer is usually only used in troubleshooting steps. Are you having other issues that you could describe and get help with? Or are you just generally inquiring about the event viewer information?
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@Mike Carron, your original issue was moved out to it’s own thread….perhaps read there and you can get it sorted out.
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@dbemowsk welcome to the Universal Devices forums. Around here this area is for support of a ratgdo plugin on the eisy or Polisy that are manufactured by Universal Devices. You seem to be looking for help with the system running HomeAssistant. Perhaps they have support areas that your questions would be better suited for. I'm sure some might have experience with the questions you pose, but seeing that the posts have gone unanswered for several days perhaps nobody can help with this situation. Good luck on your attempt for support!
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IoX Launcher shortcut stopped working, have to keep using start.jnlp
Geddy replied to raymondjiii's topic in IoX Support
@raymondjiii I think the biggest issue is MacOS. It's always been a question mark by many. Some it works fine, others have a heck of a time. I don't have anything macOS to test with so only speaking from a Windows side of life. Thanks to @Javi for updating the Wiki for some additional macOS setup checks. I know there are a lot of posts about IoX Launcher being flaky in the world of macos + java. I recall @Bumbershoot had a good post in the past about how to get things running consistently. Hope you get things sorted out again. -
@Mike Carron welcome to the forums for Universal Devices. Seems like you should look at the OpenWeatherMap FAQ/Support area for assistance. https://openweathermap.org/faq When I try the first link you posted and click on the "Subscribe" under any options it takes me to a signup screen. The free one goes to: https://home.openweathermap.org/users/sign_up
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IoX Launcher shortcut stopped working, have to keep using start.jnlp
Geddy replied to raymondjiii's topic in IoX Support
@raymondjiii after you updated Java did you clear the java cache again? Make sure you check all three boxes in that process! I've had it happen (in the past) that when Java updates it will mess up how IoX Launcher works and makes the icon go away. I can't get the icon to add back to the desktop until java cache is fully cleared. I'm not local to my eisy currently, but I did run the Java update and that process did not damage my IoX Launcher. Are you running any anti-virus or firewall applications? It's possible they're causing a conflict when Java updates. Wiki troubleshooting tips to review: https://wiki.universal-devices.com/Main_Page#Admin_Console_icon_does_not_appear_on_the_desktop https://wiki.universal-devices.com/Main_Page#Java_applications_are_blocked_by_your_security_settings https://wiki.universal-devices.com/Main_Page#Admin_Console_Minimized/Invisible_and_Cannot_be_Restored -
@someguy Please review: https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/43175-pg3x-version-3219-outdated/ As @DennisC and the post linked above the option should be on the configuration page. If you're not seeing that option it might mean you are running an older PG3 version. Please confirm what version you are running and if you have run the "Reinstall all plugin" routine. I do not run the Elk plugin so can't give a screenshot, but expect it should be an option with a checkbox.
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@Techowl Yeah, the wiki was updated about 2 years ago after Google/Gmail changed how the logins worked. Seems they moved where to get the App Password into the "2-Step Verification" section. Interesting that your provider might have shut down sending. SMTP use by the ISY994 isn't any different than sending from Outlook or a mobile device (usually). It's likely the port changed or their security process changed (like Google). I see this from the Bell Aliant support page: Usually I would expect the port to be 465 or 587. Odd that they don't require TSL or SSL. Were you sending emails to an email address or trying to send email to text? If to text/mobile # it's possible your carrier is blocking that process. Glad Gmail is working though.
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@Steves ISY welcome to the forums. Sounds like you’ve gotten file associations messed up. What computer OS are you using? If Windows right click on start.jnlp and click “open with”. From there select “Look for another app on this PC”. Then it gets a little tricky sometimes. You need to look for the Java folder (check Program Files or Program Files(86)), then the “bin” folder then select “javaws”. Be sure you select “always use this app…”. If running a different OS (like Mac or Unix) you’ll need to search online for how to fix file associations. The IoX Launcher method for getting into admin console does not require any browser interaction. The “leave this window open” process is no longer needed. Just get the start.jnlp association corrected and should be able to get in without issue.
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Make sure to always review the user manual for how a factory reset should be performed. It has apparently changed somewhat from product to product over the years. The key (and sometimes most difficult part) is keeping the set button pressed through the beeping. Most will release when the beeping starts or it slips and releases before it stops. (Source: https://www.insteon.com/support-knowledgebase/2014/9/30/keypad-dimmer-owners-manual) I have a small screwdriver that is used in eyeglass repair that I use to pull the set button out if ever needed. That way I don't have to remove the faceplate. Have to be a bit more careful not to scratch anything, but with the right motion it pops out easy. Same screwdriver is used to keep it pressed in, but sometimes it does slip out. Thankfully, not a normal occurrence to have to repeat on a regular basis, but a process I used when originally setting up (and reconfiguring) my system.
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Power failure proofing Eisy with Hue bridge and Hue lights
Geddy replied to gschoffstall's topic in eisy
Depends what you plan to plug into it. If just general internet equipment, eisy, and other IoT bridge type devices then a “basic” UPS should be just fine. You might want to have a filter on the plug if the PLM is near because some UPS can suck Insteon, but try without first if you don’t have an available filter. I run this UPS for modem, router, switch, eisy, and yolink bridge. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FWAZEIU think about what you connect to it. Kind of pointless (IMO) to connect something like a Hue Bridge. If the power is out none of the bulbs will work…why keep the bridge up? Although, you also need to consider how long your power outages might be. If you have a lot and for long duration you might need a higher grade battery backup. APC and CyberPower are solid names. Some feel strongly about one over the other, but I find them both reliable from my experience. I don’t try to power big equipment for many hours so just need basic to keep things up. No, I just leave things to their own. If the battery doesn’t last it will stop powering anything connected to it. Most electronics should be okay. If I’m home I usually power things down if the power stays out. The UPS can then buffer against any potential surges when power is restored. I also have whole home surge protection. -
Power failure proofing Eisy with Hue bridge and Hue lights
Geddy replied to gschoffstall's topic in eisy
@gschoffstall do you have an IP reservation for the Hue Bridge? Sadly, the plugin is always looking to the same IP address for the bridge rather than communication to connect to the bridge. If you had a full power loss where all network devices lost power and connection then it’s possible they rejoined at a different IP when things booted back up. I use eisy and Hue plugin and have lost power from time to time and don’t have the bridge on a UPS and things come back as expected when power is restored. I figure because I do have IP reserved for the bridge. Where did you get these errors? This sounds more like your firmware and UI don’t match on admin console. Make sure you check admin console help -> about and make sure firmware and UI match. If they don’t, clear your Java cache (checking all three boxes in the process). Then download a new start.jnlp file from the UD Website (click on “My ISY” on the top right of the home page. -
If nothing happens try deleting the .state files mention in the wiki. https://wiki.universal-devices.com/Main_Page#Admin_Console_Minimized/Invisible_and_Cannot_be_Restored It's possible this will help, but mostly it's been commented that IoX Finder/Admin Console interface is mostly designed for the standard Java JRE downloaded directly from java.com. Running other versions sometimes results in unexpected issues. I do believe you can have multiple installs and can setup .jnlp association with the JRE, but don't have experience with that. Not sure on this one. Might be best to ask UDI directly through a support ticket. https://www.universal-devices.com/my-tickets
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I just forgot if you were connecting to an eisy or Polisy and I was too lazy to scroll up and find out as I typed it so "device" was just my filler. The other posts that I found (using Google Site Search) for the error referenced using the portal URL so that made me wonder if you were using something that started with "https://my.isy.io/isy". Seems that sometimes people will save that URL and reload the finder address and something in the address might have changed causing the issue. The three aren't the same. Each are independent (in a connection situation...typically). I'm sure down in the weeds somebody could correct me on this, but for this instance just pointing out that it wouldn't matter.
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What's wrong with Insteon's Fanlinc? I've used several for many years and found them to work great.
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When you were getting the error how were you trying to connect to the device? Were you local and were you using the auto found addresses for the device? I see some old posts relating to this error dealing with people trying to use the Portal URL to access the device. If you're local you shouldn't use the remote URL found on the portal. Just use the IP or eisy.local (https://eisy.local:8443/desc) that should be found automatically. It's possible you would want/need to clear the .state files from your temp directory. You can find reference to that in the wiki. Would be interesting to learn what you're doing here. Sounds like you and @mjrush are performing a strange search that I've honestly never attempted. Are you searching for a program? That should only find once (I assume). (how do you search for missing programs?) I usually just try to find devices. Find/Replace is usually a troubleshooting step when trying to find a random program that might impact a misbehaving device. I did notice if you use "Raw Text" that capitalization must match. I tested to find "night" and it didn't find anything. Changed it to "Night" and it found many locations the word was used. I would suggest making a copy of the full program tree. "Copy folder to Clipboard", paste into notepad, then perform a search in there and see what programs are being referenced to see if it has some missing devices.
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Do you have a way to contact the prior owner? Ask them to remove from their portal account. Otherwise, open a support ticket and ask them to delete existing portal registration. Include the UUID of the device. https://www.universal-devices.com/my-tickets/ Right click on the devices and then "delete". Right click on the program(s) then "delete". You could also attempt a full factory reset using the multi function button: https://wiki.universal-devices.com/Polisy:User_Guide#Multi_Function_Button
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https://wiki.universal-devices.com/Eisy:User_Guide#Multi_Function_Button This describes what the button presses will do. I would try the 5 button push to "reboot" it. Otherwise, go for 6 presses to power it down (if it doesn't shut down after 6 presses and 30-45 seconds it's "hung"). Once the light is red pull the power supply for 20-30 seconds then power it back up. It it appears "hung" pull the power, wait 20-30 seconds then plug it back in. Since you already did a power cycle it might be something to open a support ticket to get some assistance: https://www.universal-devices.com/my-tickets Can you get admin console to load at all? Can you load this page in a browser: https://eisy.local:8443/WEB/sysconfig.txt (if it doesn't resolve try replacing "eisy.local" with your ip for the eisy.) Just trying to see if the device is active and online in any form/shape. Typically if PG3 goes offline randomly something might have crashed. It should have attempted to recover. The power cycle should have helped (especially since you said you pulled the power for 15 minutes). Since you've got a blue light it appears it might have started up okay, but if PG3 still isn't running something could have hung in the boot.
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new pg3x migration, won't login (service not available)
Geddy replied to oskrypuch's topic in Polyglot v3 (PG3x)
No, what you describe is not normal. Could possibly be a bad power supply (that would be odd though since you said this is a "new" device) or the device could have been updating even though you waited a while before pressing buttons and pulling power it still could have been in the middle of an update and then was getting hung with each subsequent power pull. Since you said this was a new "out of the box" unit, but it might be "old" (not shipped within the last 6-12 months?). There would have been a lot of code to update if it was old. No telling how long it should have taken. The part about starting the update through admin console should ultimately give you a pop-up that updates are complete (see the screen shots in this post for alerts seen on admin console). Also, if you're running UD Mobile and connected to this device on your portal account it usually sends notifications of the update as well (that they start and complete). But I don't have 2 devices so I'm not sure how alerts work for multiple devices. If might still do you some good to open a ticket with UD Support and see if somebody can review the logs from a (current) power cycle to see if something is messed up in the start up process. I suggest current since logs are rotated at midnight so unless you're good with getting in with SSH the current log wouldn't have any of the power cycles that happened before today. -
The "socket timeout error" could be a communication issue between the ISY and your computer. Be sure you've got a good network connection to both devices. Confirm the cable is properly seated in the router/switch and the ISY994 device. If you're on a wireless connection to the ISY994 maybe try a wired path if available. You said you're not running Norton or VPN, do you have any other antivirus software running? I'm not certain of the other error. It could mean the SD card in the ISY994 is damaged and it's not passing a verification process. Both could also be related to Java... What version Java are you running on your computer? Have you ever added a min/max value for the Java Runtime? https://wiki.universal-devices.com/Main_Page#Admin_Console_is_very_slow_or_hangs Can use higher values. The wiki just suggests setting to 512, but can use 1024 or even more if your system has a lot of available memory. Some posts have indicated possibly adding min(initial)/max as the same value, but I'm not certain if this helps any. -Xms = selects the initial memory allocated -Xmx = selects the maximum that can be allocated.
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@fanpatsdec first - easiest/preferred way to post a program is to right click on the program and use the "Copy to clipboard" option (last menu item). Then paste it as text in the forum post. This way it helps others if they need to suggest an edit to not have to re-type the program or try to describe the change. You're the second person that's had an issue with "fast on/off" not triggering. I don't think this would be a bug, but might be a concern that should be reviewed by a support ticket with UD. https://www.universal-devices.com/my-tickets For testing try changing from "Fast off" to just "off" and see if the device triggers the program. The other user appears to be having issues with communication not even seeing the device trigger in event viewer. Open event viewer and set it to level 3. Then operate the switch for both on/off and fast on/fast off and then copy the event viewer to a text editor and see what the IoX received for events.
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@andrew77 I don't see anything in the program you posted that would cause this not to run. I was going to say if you had the wait at 25 minutes maybe something was turning the fan off (or turning it on again) while the wait was in progress that cause the "IF" to re-evaluate and restart the wait or make the program "False" and not turn it off. Try watching the program tree if the status of the fan is "ON". Does the program turn solid green? This would indicate the program is running. If the status of the fan goes to off then the program icon would be partially red , indicating "FALSE" state last time it was evaluated. I just tested your program and my fan turned off as expected and the program appeared with the red icon because now the "If" is "false". Try "find/replace" (right click on any program and it's near the bottom menu option) in programs for the "Bathroom Fan" and see if you have other programs controlling it. There might be something else causing the program to turn "False" before your wait is complete. I tested while remote to the location and used UD mobile to turn the fan on and status on admin console showed "on" so program was true and turned the fan off (I lowered my "wait" to 10 seconds for quick trigger). Remember if anything causes the "IF" to re-evaluate during the wait the program essentially restarts. It's possible your 25 minutes is restarting and still going longer than you expect it to. Perhaps use "Switched" for the fan device to trigger the program. That way it's a physical process of turning the fan on that triggers the wait.
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Something you should know too is that many carriers have limited email to SMS overall. So while you might think you're good with a 2 min delay it could be the carrier limiting the delivery all together. It's been an ongoing issue on the forums for the last several years and only seems to be getting worse by some posts I've seen. (just search: "at&t limiting email to sms" and see all the issues popping up) There's no "good" way around it with only an ISY994, but one suggestion has been using a dedicated email client on a mobile device (like Spark email app) and only have the ISY email account checked on there to get alerts through that app. I believe there's a way to use UD Mobile and network resources to send alerts, but I've never attempted to do that so would just refer you to the wiki to read more about UD Mobile.
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@TUhl01 or perhaps try: eisy.local:8443/WEB/sysconfig.txt - kind of got off target of what @chris.com was looking for though. @chris.com if you read some of the other posts in this area you'd see what others have been doing with this plugin and perhaps the steps you were asking about for setting it up. As you mentioned though, seems like the latest version has some options that aren't (or weren't) fully available at least until the UDX system is updated.
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@JMC I think you've had this issue before. Not sure what you did to get it sorted out before. I know @bpwwer was also in on a recent post about this. I don't use that OS so can't help with what you're attempting. Looks like last time you removed IceTea and reinstalled and stuff worked. Old posts you had about this (or similar):